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Jeff Reed's avatar

Well-reasoned article, Natalie. I taught high school English, and I was always surprised how little Bible literacy my students had acquired, even though I taught in what was considered a moderately-conservative school district. The Parable of the Prodigal Son, which you mentioned, was one that, to my surprise, almost no one seemed to know. I don't think students are getting a lot of background knowledge even in Sunday School.

Students cannot get enough cultural literacy, and the Bible should be part of that, but I always stressed that they were free to believe in the literal truth of the stories if they chose, but I was teaching the stories as literature in order to clarify the allusions. And I would remind them that one person's religion is another person's mythology.

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Erin Denniston's avatar

I am an atheist. I've been an atheist since I was twelve. But when I had children, I took them to church (Unitarian Universalist to be sure, but still, a church), bought a children's bible and read it to them. I also read them fairy tales, tall tales, historical tales, etc. I wanted them to understand the shared literary language of our country that included all of that. And as a science teacher who has watched science being squeezed out of elementary classrooms for decades, replaced by unrelated and watered down science topic short reads like those on penguins and clouds, I'd be happy for kids to learn ANY real social studies and science again.

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PubliusofTexas's avatar

The "content" of the Amplify curriculum is aligned with Core Knowledge recommendations. It does not align to actual content standards for social studies or science. Learning about the Vikings or Ancient Rome in 3rd grade is not in Texas social studies standards. This is not a bad idea, but the revisions did nothing to promote the social studies knowledge Texas parents, teachers, and the SBOE codified in the state standards. As a result, many elementary teachers are checking the social studies box, but not actually teaching any of the right content. Same in science. But the Bible is there...though it too is not in the social studies standards in elementary. So weirdly, the Commissioner is actively undermining the teaching of the actually approved content in the TEKS (Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills) standards.

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Kelli's avatar

I have used Amplify, and found it reasonable. Which makes me immediately suspicious of the "Texas specific" version. I see no reason at all to give state education officials the benefit of the doubt. They often come to their positions with a stated, frequently religious, agenda. I have seen enough calls to "bring God back into the classroom" to assume that there are people at the state level who are acting in bad faith when claiming to choose unbiased curriculum.

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Sandie Barrie Blackley's avatar

Thanks for another excellent article!

It does seem odd that there is so much controversy about what is and isn't taught when "there’s little reliable data on what is actually taught in American classrooms". A good starting point would be for the adults to agree on guidelines differentiating indoctrination from knowledge-building.

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David Bayly's avatar

Excellent. I have appreciated your Substack. Thank you.

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mathew's avatar

Overall agreed.

One niggle, though it's quite clear that western culture is superior to other cultures

To take a really easy example. Think about being a woman or gay in a place like afghanistan.

Western culture, Modernity, Liberal values, those are worse fighting for.

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Kelly Kenney's avatar

Separation of church and state is crucial in a democracy, any teaching of the Bible in public schools is against our constitution. We are not a Christian nation and never will be.

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Jeff Reed's avatar

I agree with the first and last of your propositions, but teaching the Bible as literature to help students understand American culture is entirely appropriate. Letter from Birmingham Jail, for instance, is filled with biblical allusions which must be understood in order to grasp King's main arguments.

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Dan Hochberg's avatar

But since many Americans are Christians, excluding it favors a secular worldview and violates the free exercise clause. And if a person isn't aware of scripture there is some cultural illiteracy there.

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mathew's avatar

Actually, the Constitution doesn't mandate a separation between church and state. It prohibits the establishment of a church religion as in a church of america like there was a church of england

The separation between church and state was taken from a letter

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